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Submitted by security_six on Sat, 02/09/2008 - 9:07pm.
As I have mentioned before I am in the process of purchasing a 4.78 acre peice of property in Alaska. I am hoping to be able to go up there within two years and spend an entire year up there. I thought I would throw out my prepartations and plans so far for general comment. Note, I will be mentioning guns and hunting. These are not topics for debate carrying guns and killing animals are pretty much a fact of life in the Alaskan Bush. Beyond that, I would appreciate input on my food planning or anything else you may feel worth chiming in on. The land I am purchasing is near Iksgiza Lake which is about 75 miles from Fairbanks and is reachable only by air. I have based my basic supply list off these historical gold rush era lists. 1898 list from the Northern Pacific Railroad 1898 report from the Governor of Alaska I have made some allowances for personal taste and modern supplies. For instance I will be carrying Spam instead of bacon, and very little coffee but more tea. I am actually fond of beans and rice, as well as cornbread and sourdough breadstuffs. I make my own sourdough now as it is... I am searching for a good source of affordable canned butter. I'll also be adding some maple syrup, as well as some rum, brandy and whiskey to the list. Various luxury foodstuffs like chocolate and whatnot will also be carried. For clothing I will be bringing an appropriate parka, perhaps a USGI extreme cold weather parka, artic shoes, socks, etc... I will buy a Four Dog stove for heating and cooking. I have not settled on a cabin design to build yet. I want to bring a teepee or small wall tent to live in until I build a cabin. Will either bring a Mosin-Nagant M38 rifle or a Marlin Guide Gun in .45/70 for hunting, as well as a pump shotgun and a .41 magnum revolver. A Freeplay Weza for charging batteries and running a laptop hooked up to a ham radio for communications and email. What is a hard choice is the books to bring with me. I don't have a comprehensive list of titles to take with me. Weight is a major consideration as each flight in can only carry about 600 pounds. Any thoughts on the book category? I'll be spending a year largely out of touch with society in the woods. What would you take with you?
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Submitted by Rob Richards on Sat, 02/09/2008 - 9:50pm.A review on PCWorld.com
Good idea
Submitted by security_six on Sat, 02/09/2008 - 10:04pm.Thanks. Well if I keep the Mosin Nagant and don't buy the Marlin Guide gun, I could use that money to buy a Kindle. Since I already have a rifle suitable for large and dangerous game up there (although this is liable to start an argument) I could hold off on buying another one. Since cost is an issue, I have had to start balancing things I WANT vs things I NEED for the trip. I WANT a Marlin Guide Gun. I don't NEED a Marlin Guide Gun.... I may just get a Kindle if I can get titles I want to read on it... I'm not sure I can get some of the survival titles, technical books or fiction I want for it. Worth considering though.
EDIT: Holy Cow! There are a LOT of titles for that thing! I want!
One loves to posess arms, though they hope to never have occassion for them.
Thomas Jefferson to George Washington 1796
Your Trip
Submitted by DJW on Sat, 02/09/2008 - 10:19pm.Sounds like a fun time. I wish I had the ambition to try this.
The only thing I would suggest is that you pack some bug repellant clothing. I found ExOfficio has the best prices and selection on 'Bug Off' gear. A few years ago I spent the spring up there and felt like I was being eaten. I would also pack some climate wear protective outfitting. Skookum Bay Outfitters (Harrison next to Subway) has some good prices on long sleeve shirts and polartec clothing.
Good luck on your journey. I hope you have a good time.
I Want Your Sourdough Recipe!
Submitted by JstPlnOnry on Sat, 02/09/2008 - 10:24pm.care to share?!
That Kindle is mega cool! I'd love to have one myself!
"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown
Uhh
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 12:15pm.I just got some starter from my mom, nothing fancy. There are a lot of recipes on the net. If I were to make a new starter I would just mix some flour, water and yeast and let it work in a warm place (covered) for a while....
The story so far: In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people mad and been widely regarded as a bad idea. -The Restaurant at the end of the Universe
Cool!
Submitted by JstPlnOnry on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 4:09pm.Mr. Onry travels to San Francisco a lot and I always make him bring me a huge loaf of sourdough from the wharf! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE IT!
"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown
Not too hard
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 9:15pm.Starting a starter
My mom maks awesome sourdough donuts. Flavored with pumpkin pie spices and made with all organic whole wheat and white flours. She twists the dough, frys them and puts a light organic sugar glaze on them. I used to eat them with milk for breakfast. Between the whole grain flour and the protien sourdough adds, it was a great breakfast. Or how about sourdough biscuits with organic sweet cream butter and Danish Orchards strawberry jam? Or fresh hot sourdough english muffins?
Yup really sucks to be me when I visit dear mom.
The story so far: In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people mad and been widely regarded as a bad idea. -The Restaurant at the end of the Universe
Have you seen "Into the
Submitted by Ehver Green on Sun, 02/10/2008 - 12:50am.I'm still absolutely
Submitted by NWarty on Wed, 02/13/2008 - 2:36pm.Dick Proenneke
Submitted by Jeff Brigham on Wed, 02/13/2008 - 2:31pm.Six,
Have you heard of Dick Proenneke? He lived for over twenty years in a remote cabin that he built himself by hand. I saw parts of this man's story on PBS a while back and finally found it on the web. They have several DVDs of his story.
Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Proenneke and http://www.dickproenneke.com/DickProenneke.html
Jeff Brigham
I have his book
Submitted by security_six on Wed, 02/13/2008 - 6:33pm.I have read nearly all the literature on the subject of living in the bush, and am starting in on Gold Rush stories...
The story so far: In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people mad and been widely regarded as a bad idea. -The Restaurant at the end of the Universe
I saw bits on pieces on PBS
Submitted by Norm on Wed, 02/13/2008 - 11:33pm.very interesting stuff.
As far as boomstick(s). Forget the nagant, go for the 45/70. Get a short-barreled mossberg 500 (lighter, easier to pack) and some solid magnum slugs. Where on Earth did you get a .41 magnum? If it's a tough frame I would see if cor-bon loads one of their heavy lead "penetrator" loads in that caliber. If they do pick up 2 or 3 boxes to take with you. G'luck!
Boomsticks
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 11:03am.I've had this discussion somewhat with a friend of mine who is a huge .45/70 nut. He is of the opinion a Mosin Nagant will serve as well for hunting. Keep in mind 7.62x54r is pretty much the same as a 30.06 and that round has done yeoman's duty in Alaska. I'm undecided on the rifle, but will probably use this as an excuse to get a Marlin Guide Gun...
I don't have a .41 mag yet, but the same friend with the .45/70's turned me on to it. I think there are a couple of Rugers in that chambering.
+1 on the Mossberg and slugs.
Also have been looking at Ruger Alaskan models either with hot .45 long Colt loads or in .454...
The story so far: In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people mad and been widely regarded as a bad idea. -The Restaurant at the end of the Universe
Looks like
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 12:22pm.You're right. The .45/70 has more muzzle energy out of a Marlin 1895 than a Mosin Nagant would have. I must have been looking at loads for the old Trapdoor Springfields...
May take the Mosin Nagant as a "light" rifle, or could just make up a bunch of different loads for the .45/70...
The story so far: In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people mad and been widely regarded as a bad idea. -The Restaurant at the end of the Universe
Buying the land?
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 4:08pm.Must you buy the land? I just got back from Arizona for a team offsite and we went out in the Sedona desert two nights ago for a team building exercise. We were led by three "real cowboys" on the adventure and they helped us pan for gold, shoot guns (I only shot the potato gun), throw hatchets, rope steer, etc. Oh, there was also a magician, weird.
Anyway, they land they operate on is based on a claim. The 20 acres they "own" encompasses two river bends which they plan to dredge for gold now that prices are through the roof. Ownership means they can live on it tax free for the year for a simple fee of $15. They must work on the parcel at least one day during the year. Annual renewal cost is $15. it also entitles them to any minerals they can dig up, including gold.
I panned for about an hour and walked away with about 50 chips of gold ranging in various sizes. Nothing too big but I also found a Garnet. It's about the size of an eraser (exposed portion of a pencil). Good thing too, today is Valentine's day and it happens to be my wife's birthstone!
I did a couple quick searches and it looks as though you can stake a mining claim in Alaska. Might be worth looking into unless you really want to own the property outright for years to come.
Dude
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 02/14/2008 - 6:40pm.It's only $2800 for the land I'm buying. There are issues with mining claims that I dont' care to get into in depth at the moment, (busy) but for the most part it's pointless unless you are actually MINING.
The story so far: In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people mad and been widely regarded as a bad idea. -The Restaurant at the end of the Universe