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Submitted by Robert Whitlock on Mon, 02/13/2006 - 4:54pm.
These nazi's are just plain creeping me out. I want to know what prompted them, out of the blue, to show up and start disturbing, disrupting and instilling fear into this community.

I am concerned about the local reaction to the Nazi presence.

I have two separate visions in my imagination: 1) 8 or 9 nazi's standing in solitude, isolated on a hill top, blathering obscenities and slogans like "white-power," while one of their number ridiculously holds a shield
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2) 8 or 9 nazi's defending themselves against a group of 150 counter protestors, arguably being threatened - even to the point of necessitating police escort.

Now I ask, which image would most likely tend promote recruitment more?

I'll add that my opinion is rather fixed. I see this group as having an intention to disrupt. These individuals strike me as little more than trolls, who thrive on adversity and the reactionary response that they get from communities they set upon to antagonize.

How to handle a troll?

Don't.

Simply ignore them.

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I understand what you are exp

I understand what you are expressing and my response isn't intended to change your mind.

I personally believe there is room for all sorts of strategies. Zoltan Grossman's essay is worth revisiting.

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I also think there is room fo

I also think there is room for all sorts of strategies. But I am concerned that many people have come down with a case (to varying degrees) of nazi fever. Some symptoms include: the heebie jeebies, distractedness, feelings of frustration, anxiety, anger and aggression.

I think there are other things to organize around. I think the idea of a festival of diversity is great. I just think we need to be especially thoughtful and careful about any type of direct reaction to the nazi's.

Anyway, as Steve can surely attest to, we have enough to worry about with the smooth talking and sly caiman populations on the prowl.

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I like the festival and educa

I like the festival and education ideas too.

You have identified nazi fever and listed some of its symptoms, this is another important first from an Oly Blogger.

One cure is humor. Applied liberally and often. I also believe plenty of debriefing is in order at regular intervals.

As for the supposedly mythical caimans of Olympia, all I can say is.....the proof is in their invisibility. If you don't see them while walking around the lake, while strolling through town, rest assured, they are everywhere.

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In the mid 1980s I was a facu

In the mid 1980s I was a faculty member at WSU, during the time Richard Butler's Nazis were on campus, in uniform, handing out literature to a surprisingly nonreactive student body. The Nazis said since Reagan was in office the political climate seemed more favorable for them, and at WSU in the 1980s, they might have been right! It later turned out these same Nazis were burning down parts of nearby Lewiston, Idaho and one of them would hang around and tell news crews they witnessed a black man running from the fire with a gasoline can. The Spokesman-Review, a newspaper I highly respect, had a courageous reporter infiltrate these pinheads and he did a superb job exposing them as true terrorists.

During this period (1985), I drew a comic called Brave New Nazis of the Inland Empire (possibly still for sale in the Danger Room, plug, plug). It was actually pretty lame as political cartoons go. Since most of the gags were visual, trying to explain it here won't really work. Here's one line from the comic:

"They don't preach hate, they preach racism, which is a totally different thing. It's like the difference between 30 minutes and half an hour, or between the sayings, 'He's got a screw loose' and 'He's taken a one-way trip on the Cocoa Puff Train.'"

But most of the locals told me I was being suicidal in publishing it and said it had been nice knowing me. It was amazing how a tiny group of morons could have such an impact. I sent a copy to Richard Butler (who lived not far away across the border in Idaho) just as a way of poking him in the eye because we cartoonists are professional jerks (or, as one author said, practice the "ungentlemanly art." Charles Bukowski called underground cartoonists preachers in clown suits). In response, I didn't get overt threats, but I did a series of hang-up calls in the wee hours of the morning for awhile.

In my experience as a cartoonist, oppressive and arrogant political and religious personalities (Yow! Is that redundant or am I just cynical?) fear being laughed at more than being shouted at. Whether it is the Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy or the politics of little old McCleary, theocratic and fascistic forces hate being laughed at. The Yippies of the 1960s were on to something here. Humor prevails over evil.

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This is a great post Steve. R

This is a great post Steve. Right on target too, in fact several of us here in Oly are learning that humor is just about as necessary as air, especially when it comes to dealing with Nazis.

As the Fremont statue was protested, I am now quite certain that we are witnessing the dawn of a nefarious Nazis Protest Art campaign. O, the horror.

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Being shouted at is an affirm

Being shouted at is an affirmation, being laughed at is a denial.
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Another thought: When they se

Another thought: When they see people become angered in response to their message, it may only confirm their hateful, violent, and racist intentions.

I think there are more constructive ways to approach their rally than a face-off - confrontation in the streets modality.

I hope that isn't what happens if indeed they do decide to show up for their rally in July.

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