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I really need lurkers to participate in this poll!
Submitted by Rick on Sun, 02/24/2008 - 10:02pm.And everyone else, but especially lurkers. In that way, we'll be able to get a good measure of how many folks are using OlyBlog. I'll post some estimates after I've analyzed the results.
> It's OK to be nice. <
enpen's social contract
I only come by the actual
Submitted by epersonae on Sun, 02/24/2008 - 10:35pm.site loading slowly now?
Submitted by Robert Whitlock on Sun, 02/24/2008 - 10:37pm.Once in a blue moon it will
Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 7:43am.WebTV?
Submitted by paisleyboxers on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 1:44pm.Friendblog: None are known to exist since bloggers don't have friends.
I'll check the site about
Submitted by oysterpreserve on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 9:16am.I'll check the site about everyday, mainly just to skim through recent posts, once I'm done I usually go wallow in my own pity for the fact that I haven't contributed for several months.
I typically use safari as my browser and have had no problems with the site loading.
I lurk and don't post much
Submitted by NWarty on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 9:20am.I look during the week but I don't on the week ends.
Submitted by Tschida on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 9:28am.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
Everyday
Submitted by olyrickm on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 10:01am.relevancy
Submitted by paisleyboxers on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 11:07am.I think a whole lot more happens than the antagonistic accounts of posters 'telling it like it is'.
Friendblog: None are known to exist since bloggers don't have friends.
Do you have some examples of what you mean by that?
Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 11:13am.Yes. One would be
Submitted by paisleyboxers on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 1:03pm.Friendblog: None are known to exist since bloggers don't have friends.
Lurk more than write
Submitted by Crusty on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 10:59am.Think Tumwater counts as hyperlocal
Submitted by Guglielmo on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:21pm.Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.! --John Maynard Keynes
I actually agree with Gug, I am in Tumwater all the time.
Submitted by Tschida on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:25pm.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
Olympia + Lacey + Tumwater =
Submitted by Ehver Green on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 12:37pm.NOT A WHOLE LOT MANG
Submitted by eelcozy on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 3:02pm.I used to come quite a bit
Submitted by Derek (not verified) on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 3:30pm.Derek Summed It Up
Submitted by JstPlnOnry on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 3:52pm.eloquently in just a couple of sentences:
The question is... Are "those in control" listening and will they realize where they might be wrong and correct the behaviors?
"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown
Onry...
Submitted by Rick on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 3:59pm....do you really think that any docent has been as destructive to good will here as Chris or Jeff? I get pissy every once in a while, but I apologize when I do, as do Rob R., Rob W. and others. But whenever Jeff or Chris get called on their behavior, it just turns into an argument about censorship and they never take any responsibility for being inappropriate. That's why we're all frustrated. If they would just own up, apologize, brainstorm about how to do it better, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
> It's OK to be nice. <
enpen's social contract
From my perspective, yes
Submitted by Alienated on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 4:18pm.From my perspective, yes some docents have acted as destructively.
There was an apology, but frankly it doesn't seem like there were any lessons learned. It's not being directed at me, but the same people are still firing shots back and forth.
It's going to be pretty funny after you line all these guys up against the wall how these patterns are going to continue with new faces and voices.
On topic, I read this blog weekly for the very occasional interesting local tidbit, and to see if people will every be able to get along.
It's like watching the Odd Couple being performed on the Titanic.
That's A Choose A Side Question
Submitted by JstPlnOnry on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 5:17pm.I don't know if I'm really comfortable answering Rick! I'm not trying to be evassive or anything either but there have been times when we've all gotten out of line and either apologized or saw and acknowledged the error of our ways! Including Chris & Jeff!
That said, as you know, when you're passionate about something, you fight for it. Sometimes effectively, sometimes ineffectively.
If I were sitting on a jury that was asked to ban someone for something, I don't think I could agree to their banning given some of the things Rob's been allowed to say & do around here and not faced any consequences for. Are all 3 of them in the wrong a lot of times? Yeah. But that's my opinion and it may not be the opinion of others and that's OK.
Do I think it's right or fair that Robert hardly posts in here and then when he does it's a topic that opens a can of worms for many and when it doesn't go the way he wanted it to he threatens banishment or actually bans somebody? No. If he posted on a daily occurance and responded to more topics, I'd think differently for sure.
I posted on another thread what my solution to this would be, I think it was Merwyn's thread about closing comments, and my solution would be to ban topics, not people.
I'm sorry I'm not able to take a side and answer your question better but for me right now, it's all about fairness and looking at other ways to solve problems!
"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown
Good question
Submitted by Guglielmo on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 4:06pm.Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.! --John Maynard Keynes
You're Absolutely Right Again Gug!
Submitted by JstPlnOnry on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 5:19pm.and after posting that, and leaving to take a shower, I realized I'm just as guilty and need to work on things too!
"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown
I need a shower like that.
Submitted by Guglielmo on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 5:22pm.Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.! --John Maynard Keynes
It Must Be My Double Showerhead!
Submitted by JstPlnOnry on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 5:26pm.as soon as I stand underneath it, it's as if I'm transported to a tropical waterfall that brings complete peace and relaxation to me and allows me to open my mind and think things through more clearly!
That or a nice bubble bath! hehe!
"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown
I can think of a few people...
Submitted by jlw on Tue, 02/26/2008 - 8:41am.Those in control..
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 4:19pm.In my humble opinion I think the Docents do a great job at trying to keep this blog clean and are even way too lenient and forgiving on some users.
Those who fear control or a strike system may just have a hard time controlling themselves. This forum was created for the community but if this community cannot police themselves this site is theirs (the Docents) to mold and do as they will with. There aren't public funds at work here and all their workI consider a great gift to this community. It is sad to see there are some out there who knowingly cause this site harm. It isn't impossible to be civil, we should all make sure we do our best to do so.
As a social experiment I would like to see these Olyblog uprisings and arguments documented and charted to see if all this garbage corresponds with the weather/seasons. Be patient folks Spring is just around the corner.
Dave White - "Old Timey Dave"
Oldtime Design & Beverage Blog
Or maybe the cycles of the moon.
Submitted by Rick on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 4:26pm.> It's OK to be nice. <
enpen's social contract
OTD
Submitted by stevenl on Tue, 02/26/2008 - 5:42am.Great post. You speak for many of us, I suspect.
"Those who fear control or a strike system may just have a hard time controlling themselves" is a very elegant way of presenting a truth.
Thank you. I'm not in lockstep with the docents on politics, but I agree with you they have been more liberal than I would be with certain "Look at me! Look at me! Look at me now!" individuals who seem to crave negative attention.
I hope you'll contribute more to OlyBlog in the future.
I am a lurker (mostly). I
Submitted by Aoife on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 5:13pm.Thank you for the input
Submitted by Robert Whitlock on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 8:11pm.^_^
Would you be more likely to participate in OlyBlog conversations if there was less nastiness in the comments threads?
I think there are a lot of people who are turned off by the nastiness.
Not quite daily, less as of late though.
Submitted by Norm on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 5:20pm.I am a mostly lurker
Submitted by Chia on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 9:14pm.---------
Nonviolence Includes Animals:
audio
"PETA President Ingrid E. Newkirk's address to the International Nonviolence Conference in Bethlehem"
When I first saw your post, Rick...
Submitted by The Original Yoda on Mon, 02/25/2008 - 10:51pm....I thought, "where do I vote if I check OlyBlog like 20 times a day?"
I can't be the only one that thought that - can I?
I'm in that boat as well
Submitted by enpen on Tue, 02/26/2008 - 7:46am.And I'd like to make it more see-worthy.
"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe