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Help Plan Olympia's 2008 May Day Celebration

Submitted by UnkemptTide on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 12:05pm.

may day

Start: Apr 15 2008 - 6:00pm

End: Apr 15 2008 - 8:00pm

Come take part in planning this years Olympia May Day Celebration. This years events will be held in solidarity with workers world wide and focus on supporting undocumented workers and soldiers in and out of the military.

If you have something that you would like to bring to the table, join us every Tuesday at Last Word Books on 4th Avenue from 6pm to 8pm. We will be hashing out our plans and preparing for the celebration.

If you can't make and would like to help out e-mail olymayday08@gmail.com.

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I'm curious

Submitted by security_six on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 4:10pm.

How can you support a worker who is in this country illegally? They are not "undocumented immigrants" but rather illegal aliens who are breaking all manner of laws by being in this country.

I've worked in San Diego and had to take much lower pay because of the presence of people willing to do the same work for much less. I could barely survive at times.

Wouldn't establishing living wages for those legally here be better?

"Don't try to out-weird me, three eyes. I get weirder things than you in my breakfast cereal."- Zaphod Beeblebrox

"Beware the person who would take your guns. That person is your ENEMY."

Common S6

Submitted by Laurian on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 4:33pm.

Undocumented workers AKA illegal aliens broke the laws of the State in pursuit of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. So did a bunch of right thinking Colonists.

The only acts that should be illegal are theft from, violence against, or intimidation and exploitation of other human beings. Everything else is about ideology or theology.

Un-papered workers have the same deductions legal workers have taken out of their checks. They pay SSI, The IRS, L&I etc which they rarely collect on. If there were not market forces that rewarded the risks of of the underground economy there would be no illegal economy. Legalize Pot and Mexicans.

Yea I know I'm overstating my case. I do so to stir up debate.

Oh crud...

Submitted by security_six on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 4:42pm.

I think we could go roundy round on this one for a long time. How about over coffee when we discuss the other stuff you asked me about? Then we can have a civilized disagreement instead of one over the net :-) Otherwise it's going to become "SOMEONE is WRONG on the internet!" :-)

I should have kept my mouth shut...
"Don't try to out-weird me, three eyes. I get weirder things than you in my breakfast cereal."- Zaphod Beeblebrox

"Beware the person who would take your guns. That person is your ENEMY."

why are you focusing on undocumented workers?

Submitted by Guglielmo on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 5:07pm.

They are a relatively powerless lot. To blame them for your problems seems a little bit misplaced to me. Perhaps you should to save you chip for employers. The better question is, why are undocumeted workers coming here and why are they successesfully becoming employeed. Perhaps if Mexico had better labor laws, unions, and pay, and perhaps if we played by the rules too, we wouldn't all be in a big hissy-fit about them darned "illegals." Are you an "illegal" when you walk onto a passenger jet with your handgun, or just some guy with an illegal weapon? I'd say it's the latter.

Umm...

Submitted by security_six on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 5:16pm.

I'm not blaming them for any problems right now. Also I wouldn't walk onto a passenger jet with a handgun, so that's pointless.

What is a nation supposed to do with persons illegally in their country then? I say send 'em back. It is only the "civilized" western nations that allow themselves to get overrun with unauthorized persons.
"Don't try to out-weird me, three eyes. I get weirder things than you in my breakfast cereal."- Zaphod Beeblebrox

"Beware the person who would take your guns. That person is your ENEMY."

Mexico has a similar problem on their southern border.

Submitted by The Original Yoda on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 5:30pm.

Keep in mind, the only reason they come here is because their agrarian way of life has been destroyed back home. Our trade policies have directly affected their situation.

The US is not their home. Their family and friends are back home. They work here to send money home with the hopes that they can, someday, return home.

You DO understand what a hypothetical question is

Submitted by Guglielmo on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 5:35pm.

don't you?

If you think the economy is bad now, just wait until we "send them back." It is a very short-sighted, reactionary policy. And considering most undocumented workers are related or have strong connections with American citizens or legal residents, don't think "sending them all back" is something we can accomplish with a signature...like changing the minimum wage. You think people are just going to lay down and let it happen? Nope. Ain't gonna happen. At least not on a big scale.

ANyway, that's my last word. Back to May Day.

Can We Get A Heads Up

Submitted by JstPlnOnry on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 5:37pm.

on where you're going to be protesting so we can avoid those areas please.

"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown

Mayday is not a protest

Submitted by a.future.with.n... on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 5:43pm.

It's a holiday and celebration. I know thats splitting hairs to you but it's probably one of the most important days of the year to me.

It seems this is a high tension thread for whatever reason. I'm not trying to add to that, so please don't take this post as antagonism. I'm just adding a little clarity.

I love May Day

Submitted by Guglielmo on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 5:47pm.

Here I am "leading" one of the best ones ever (pick me out for a free beer). I miss the good ones. Great energy.

Credit: The Daily Olympian

bottom right

Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 5:59pm.

Right bottom indeed

Submitted by Guglielmo on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 6:07pm.

Too bad I'm in an airport. I'd buy you one now.

Just remember

Submitted by security_six on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 6:17pm.

Nipple rings will get you hassled. Best not be wearing any. Have a good flight!

"Don't try to out-weird me, three eyes. I get weirder things than you in my breakfast cereal."- Zaphod Beeblebrox

"Beware the person who would take your guns. That person is your ENEMY."

I See You

Submitted by JstPlnOnry on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 6:00pm.

in the lower right hand corner there in the snazzy brown suit & the sun shining off your barely there hair! Now where are the pics of you during the naked mud dancing during the Black Lake Blvd "celebration"?

"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown

Last proper may day?

Submitted by security_six on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 6:05pm.

:-)

"Don't try to out-weird me, three eyes. I get weirder things than you in my breakfast cereal."- Zaphod Beeblebrox

"Beware the person who would take your guns. That person is your ENEMY."

The naked mud-wrestling pics are on my pay site

Submitted by Guglielmo on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 6:13pm.

wwww.anar-kissed.com. It only costs $9.95/mo. It includes a live web cam, but all I do is comment on Olyblog mostly.

S6

Submitted by Ehver Green on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 5:39pm.

This is a can of worms. Save yourself the trip around a turntable.

I'm shutting up already

Submitted by security_six on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 5:47pm.

:-) I probably shouldn't have bitten on Jim's comment...

"Don't try to out-weird me, three eyes. I get weirder things than you in my breakfast cereal."- Zaphod Beeblebrox

"Beware the person who would take your guns. That person is your ENEMY."

I'll never forget how Sound

Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 7:09am.

I'll never forget how Sound to Harbor Head Start/ECEAP nearly lost a grant that allowed more children to be taken into the program because the illegal street-blockers jeopardized the paperwork being delivered on time.

Let's see, bongo drums at the intersection of Cooper Point and Black Lake, or children (and their families) below the poverty line getting food, education and health services - it's not a tough choice to make at all.

"Never forget?"

Submitted by Guglielmo on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 8:29am.

Man, that is one traumatic, nearly delayed papers delivery!

I'll mention this once then

Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 8:49am.

I'll mention this once then drop it from this thread: you're mocking children aged 3 and 4, many of them from Migrant Families, who are below the poverty line. They are not eating, they are not getting basic health care, many aren't even learning basic social and living skills. Often they come from single-parent families who grew up in the same situation.

Many of these children belong to the same workers that the celebrants say they're standing in solidarity for.

The grant wasn't for me to get a raise, or for the office to get remodelled. It was for more teachers, supplies and class space so that we could accept more children into the program. This was especially important that year as we became responsible for Grays Harbor County as well.

A common misconception is that Head Start's a private school for rich kids. It's not, you have to be below the poverty line to qualify (as of 2001)

Sorry for the hijacked thread

Submitted by Guglielmo on Tue, 04/15/2008 - 1:10pm.

Erased my comment. It was copied to another thread.

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